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Aww yeah ticket for the 12/1 Dweezil show in Utrecht GET
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Aww yeah Waka/Jawaka GET

Now I finally own all the albums of the "jazzy trio" (Hot Rats, Waka/Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo) on CD. This was long overdue!
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oh uh, i should probably mention that on 8/30 a new album came out: orchestral favorites 40th anniversary edition.

i still haven't listened to a note of zappa in new york 40th anniversary deluxe edition yet so i'm building up a nice backlog here >_>
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about 11 days.
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Nice!

I shamefully still don't own a Zappa shirt but I'll probably get one in the near future.
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Yeah, I've come to appreciate it more over the years. There's an interview in which Frank explains that he had Steve Vai overdub the vocals in "The Jazz Discharge Party Hats" on guitar to achieve an effect of a George Benson-ish style applied to weird, dissonant melodies that Benson would never play. It's not a song I listen to frequently but I do appreciate the experiment he was trying to do there. Also, "We Are Not Alone" and "Moggio" are great, and I like "The Radio Is Broken" too.
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Funny, I recently decided that I want to buy the original LP of The Man from Utopia. Reason being that it's the only way to hear the original Vinnie Colaiuta drum tracks - they've been replaced with Chad Wackerman drum tracks on every single CD version of the album.
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GildedFool posted...

Hey, I guess Ulti blocked me.

Neat.

join the club!
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i was at a festival yesterday and during the soundcheck of one band, the bass player played the opening riff of zomby woof. way to go dude!

during the show, they played a lot of songs with odd time signatures, so the zappa influence was obvious!
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https://twitter.com/SteveDaines/status/1150859069084905472

movin' to montana soon/gonna be a mental toss flykune
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Interesting! I usually don't get super deep into the audio differences in all the different versions of the albums but yeah, the differences can be pretty big.
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weed isn't illegal everywhere
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That is a surprisingly cool solo, yeah. Played by Steve Lukather!
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Corrik7 posted...

That said, it does prove Steiner wrong about how the channel does not ban people based on his own opinions. Which proves my initial summation maybe still in this topic itself about the willingness to ban for personal opinion to censor the channel to the liking of the person running it

if steiner "controversially unbanned" you before you were probably not particularly well liked. i assume that if there's a consensus in the discord that one person is too much of a nuisance, that person will get banned as a result. i doubt steiner just goes around banning people he doesn't like left and right.

not saying i don't get your frustration. I'M not particularly well liked on this board, and if an admin decided to ban me from board 8 because "TOO MANY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU LASA," i'd be pretty pissed. but at the same time, i have to admit i would understand it to some extent.
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you were probably disliked by the discord people before, though. that topic was probably the final straw. i doubt they thought you were an amazing user and when you made that topic they went "WTF IS THIS SHIT BANNED."
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Corrik7 posted...

I did nothing inappropriate in the topic at any point.

you acted like you were super outraged over a minor thing and then you admitted you were being facetious. i personally didn't mind it but not everyone is going to appreciate that style of posting. pretty sure that if you had said "man it kinda sucks that FFVIIR is not coming to xbox one, especially after KHIII did come to it," almost nobody would have had a problem with your topic.
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The CD version of BTHW was actually one of my first Zappa albums. I used to freaking love it, but that's probably because I was a dumb 13 year old kid who laughed his ass off at stuff like the Michael Jackson jokes in "Why Don't You Like Me?" >_> Nowadays, I'm not all that into it anymore.

It has its moments, though. "Stolen Moments" and "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk" are great and "Any Kind of Pain" contains one of my favorite Zappa solos of all time. Most of the '88 versions of older Zappa songs ("Dickie's Such an Asshole," "Outside Now," "Hot Plate Heaven at the Green Hotel" and "What Kind of Girl?") work really well, too.
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you were probably banned because of the way you acted in that topic rather than the content of the topic
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oh wow, didn't notice there were actually some people posting on my frank zappa board a few weeks ago. see, this wasn't a stupid idea after all! >_>
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still have to start my listenthrough of zappa in new york 40th anniversary edition but i've already read that some stuff has been CUT OUT. the version of black napkins on disc 5 is not as long as the bootleg version, for instance. why, ahmet and joe, why?!
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It has been assumed for a long time that the repeated guitar riff in the original, Captain Beefheart version of "The Torture Never Stops" (as can be heard on YCDTOSA Vol. 4) was taken from "Smokestack Lightning" by Howlin' Wolf, but I just saw someone suggest that it actually comes from this song. Eh, maybe but I still think "Smokestack Lightning" is more probable, given that both Frank and Beefheart loved Howlin' Wolf. Seems more likely to me that this band also copied the "Smokestack Lightning" guitar riff for this song (several people in the comments assume this as well).
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uncle bernie's farm...?
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I ended up not going to the hologram show. Kinda short on money and I didn't find anyone who wanted to go with me.
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Nice! I will get it eventually.
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thanks! it's neat how all of the writeups are sorted by match.

i read some of ulti's writeups back when his topic was still active but i have a lot of catching up to do.
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where?

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Character_Battle_X

i probably suck at navigating the wiki but i don't see any writeups for matches on this page.
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Safer_777 posted...

Do you have these in the site at least? Or you haven't done them at all?

the board wiki, you mean? i don't think there's any post-contest analysis writeups for this contest on there.
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When I was listing the Zappa albums you can listen to on YouTube, I forgot to list You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 4:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kOhqwAF9Gbh9VL-59JkJnOrzDZJZD4Tko
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Zappa News:
- As I said earlier, a new album was released on 3/29: Zappa in New York 40th Anniversary Deluxe Edition. It's a 5CD box set. It's available on Spotify.
- A different, shorter version of this album was released on vinyl on 3/29 as well: Zappa in New York 40th Anniversary Edition. It's a 3LP set.
- I usually don't discuss rereleases in Zappa News but eh, might as well: in honor of Record Store Day, The Guitar World According to Frank Zappa was released on vinyl on 4/13. This album was originally released on cassette only in 1987. If we count the albums of the Shut Up 'n Play trilogy separately (they were also released as one 2CD album), this is one of six Zappa guitar solo albums. The other five are Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar, Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar Some More, Return of the Son of Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar, Guitar and Trance-Fusion.
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quick update: just looked up zappa in new york: 40th anniversary deluxe edition (which was released on 3/29) on bookspot (which is like a dutch version of amazon) and they offer it for... 96.99.

actually not an unreasonable price as you ARE getting 5 CDs worth of material but yeah... i'll wait for the price to drop a little bit before i buy this >_>
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ad-va-ha-ha-ha-ha-hance ro-ma-ha-hance
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Lther

Re-Gyptian Strut


Naval Aviation in Art?


A Little Green Rosetta


Duck Duck Goose


Down in De Dew


For the Young Sophisticate


Tryin' to Grow a Chin


Broken Hearts Are for Assholes


The Legend of the Illinois Enema Bandit


Lemme Take You to the Beach


Revised Music for Guitar & Low Budget Orchestra


RDNZL


Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me?


The Black Page #1


Big Leg Emma


Punky's Whips


Flamb


The Purple Lagoon


Pedro's Dowry


Lther


Spider of Destiny


Duke of Orchestral Prunes


Filthy Habits


Titties 'N Beer


The Ocean Is the Ultimate Solution


The Adventures of Greggery Peccary

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All the tracks for Civilization Phaze III and Lther are on the official channel too but they're not neatly organized into playlists like the other albums. So I will list them individually.

Civilization Phaze III

"This Is Phaze III"


Put a Motor in Yourself


"Oh-Umm"


They Made Me Eat It


Reagan at Bitburg


"A Very Nice Body"


Navanax


"How the Pigs' Music Works"


Xmas Values


"Dark Water!"


Amnerika


"Have You Heard Their Band?"


Religious Superstition


"Saliva Can Only Take So Much"


Buffalo Voice


"Someplace Else Right Now"


Get a Life


"A Kayak (On Snow)"


N-Lite


"I Wish Motorhead Would Come Back"


Secular Humanism


"Attack! Attack! Attack!"


I Was in a Drum


"A Different Octave"


"This Ain't CNN"


"The Pigs' Music"


A Pig with Wings


"This Is All Wrong"

Ahead of Their Time
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kKXkxXTe0H04D5btSJ2lAypIsnKcKv-ZA

The Lost Episodes
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nJ8eBSl7rQR-FhqBXb2cOrhBB_8mvf67s

Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa: A Memorial Tribute
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_meGoY1N7vlIvZ8eO9WYsU9eJnsZ_lVaxA

Have I Offended Someone?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neu-HLa6nWUCY5mQbYxWTKTq_nx-55hXg

Mystery Disc
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ktNn1rpNdAig_Fn_Lh8B8C3TDCw-h-9aY

FZ:OZ
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ms-tCnzzF4lc0E1CHnkmUTnsDDnroM36E

Joe's Corsage
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lYBCBQrGR2imLYVRzHPyEyLpaJc_Lx-LI

Joe's Domage
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lUF2SXHA0V_KPnWTvhYJcsdGrQoeUYUzo

Joe's XMASage
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mMIDaJRI4CzA92MZ6dcM6KAou_WPj61FE

Imaginary Diseases
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mTOF_tmTBeQarwGi3ePdbqNB9GXrzZvRA

Trance-Fusion
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nehzuQxQjyWUr8mLQtM-9McNn-Z4zPHC0

The MOFO Project/Object (2-CD version)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kOaZLMzNux6dK9lD5VYPlCz6ABQIfVDtI

Buffalo
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9SzJy0dR6dZqp-ZV207cPOWx-R4-SX0w

The Dub Room Special!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lCFMQ7zDGJgDZW4iPJimpPZXkqbZE7rfk

Wazoo
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWq5ma_P2xyewlqRtyNLwkD6jI3tXVdyE

One Shot Deal
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNqS0ygol-T12aNycfIa1YuQu1s_ylOHo

Joe's Menage
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kn7lhDoJI6gQzzstTRRrtok_QqwSLiTj4

The Lumpy Money Project/Object
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiMbruVFxLkWVE2PsDIQ32KU6rRGgr5xc

Philly '76
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mh3uaDC8COVMhdQYTxuxi7uZhfsoJSGTs

Greasy Love Songs
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nr69Qfh41ru958pLfKrhIM_q3u2mIoJLE

"Congress Shall Make No Law..."
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lcFZmTia-AgWvA_uOYaOJXCuUlSNf8bLg

Hammersmith Odeon
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lQ41JVycYm3kudofpLCmbIbwjMJaJ_7F0

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OK, you can actually listen to way more albums on the official YouTube channel than the ones I listed in post #9 - almost all of them, in fact. But for some reason these ones are not listed in the playlists. So I'll link to them here (again, in chronological order):

Lumpy Gravy (the second version)



Uncle Meat
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lmX2tfSNmWnIJSceiGdwp9PIcmU7LPCIQ

Fillmore East--June 1971
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lr0sqCf2COCT0wlFm9Ihb_-Q7C9_Y3kyI

Just Another Band from L.A.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-kgl59TrnwC4IRqyjzFCStesRu3wzDL4

Waka/Jawaka
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k-p6ixWBNdiQx4Us5J9Y94pjy2oVbJjhc

Roxy & Elsewhere
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZF-RZn2oZHR3vZU_9i1d_rRHDygndjRw

Zappa in New York
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYqlR-pRaooNTv31UjxaiX2NoKsL_kFoI

Orchestral Favorites
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY70I0JY8r9lDKDAcJTlkemUR1Hf1lEeY

Joe's Garage: Acts I, II & III
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mk-J4rotkSuhdKXbKhs80ihr-crnJIgp4

Tinsel Town Rebellion
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n7GblUmQag6kYcg7qYz3zVQ1lig8JHzIw

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k1W2HQcmFHXQZDY0tR1IZvaCgiJEua8VY

You Are What You Is
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_llG4yb37mUvZtHIFVum-mBAG3P2FHBm90

Baby Snakes
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lmem8ocSSWz36WnoZJvTKBEjO_RIVisu4

London Symphony Orchestra Vols. I & II
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kf_p9Msp3R5AeIGQK2Tgz4wOjwDyXhAaw

Thing-Fish
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k-pAwl7T1g1UsE87M2M4OkQXtteO5iwMI

Does Humor Belong in Music?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFStJEAjHXhFV8qyOaRY7TBYZeajPMydA

Guitar
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nkL6l7veHNe4HjLx3AleNALrhkrgZGL7k

You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kGGQI-F4FL9RzXheI-YK5GBJC-PmVhIj4

You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 2: The Helsinki Concert
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k4xOA05K8fm_0YZy3XOKwtEGHlOixgwp8

Broadway the Hard Way
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lWGWdFqdXuqwyFm2nFwMbzc9yxtREGK9U

You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 3
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHASNj8HBVY1M4U07dt1XdMRm-Fd79tcE

The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mcSnv6iAhLGQ2HFn9oFGZMWg-ViLBdpzc

Make a Jazz Noise Here
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lGuR4NdIyHos8PP18W8sNlCRF7T7eFWQQ

You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 5
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nFTuz8SuH1EvXa_oEPY4t8TP8uHIHDBTo

You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 6
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kNMaRAXPhlnaxqJ9LbUF1vLO0t4gKZVs0

Playground Psychotics
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k666mDVd94HoQpkiVvX5CG_SWhFcvPgEw

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Yeah, it actually worked really well as my first Zappa album. Totally succeeds at containing a bunch of quality tunes and a nice (though obviously incomplete) overview of the many facets of Zappa music.

It's funny because the first proper Zappa albums I heard were Hot Rats and Apostrophe (')... and I didn't care much for Apostrophe (') and thought Cheap Thrills was way better >_> Immediately loved the fuck out of Hot Rats, though.
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I would never discourage anyone to listen to Zappa but Thing-Fish is one of my least favorite Zappa albums >_> It also works way better if you're familiar with at least half of the Zappa catalog, as it contains a lot of inside jokes and deep cut references.

That being said, "Brown Moses" is amazing, yeah. "The 'Torchum' Never Stops" is really good, too. I also have a soft spot for "You Are What You Is," as it's one of the first Zappa tracks I ever heard (my dad owned the Cheap Thrills compilation). Nowadays, I'd rather listen to the original version of that song, though.
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